It's all about freedom of choice
This Blog has become extremely popular – far more than I expected when it was launched a couple of months ago; its viewing figures have risen very quickly. It’s been getting over 1,500 unique visits per week, so it’s being fairly widely read in the UK GoldWing Community already.
So thank everyone for your interest; you are helping to create a new and useful type of Newsletter for the UK GoldWing Community. Please keep viewing regularly and keep your contributions and comments coming too. This Blog is for everyone.
Strange then that someone would not want to make use of it, or at least not to have anything on it about him or his club.
This Blog is attracting a lot of attention. I have had to fend off over 50 inappropriate requests for links from the Blog in the past week alone. So it’s becoming a powerful way of reaching UK GoldWing owners, whether they belong to a club or not. Likewise the Blackpool Light Parade website which is currently getting over 4,000 unique visits per week, even though the 2009 Event is still eight months away. If you enter “Goldwings” as a worldwide Google search the BLP website comes up first and has done so for over a year. If you search on “GoldWing Blog” or “GoldWing Club” you get this Blog.
By comparison only about 1,100 copies of the monthly Wingspan magazine were being distributed during last year and the figure will now probably be significantly below 1,000. The days when the only effective way of publicising a UK GoldWing event was one Club’s monthly magazine are long gone.
Get noticed!
So you might think a mention on this Blog or an offer of a link to a local GoldWing Club’s website from the BLP website was not to be sniffed at by any UK GoldWing Club which looks to welcome new members. Elite Wings were happy to contribute an Article recently and there is another one, from Scotia Wings, coming soon. Indeed I am planning a whole series of Articles featuring individual GoldWing Clubs, so if you would like to see an Article about your Club (or Region) please let me know.
Tony Walton is not a Happy Man
But Tony, one of the Joint Reps of Yorkshire Wings, is not happy at all about getting free publicity. Tony might have kissed and made up after he resigned in a huff after an internal squabble a few weeks ago, but he doesn’t seem to have lost his appetite for belligerence. Indeed he’s been trying to give me quite a hard time about giving his Club’s activities or events publicity. He wants to keep them secret.
Odd, since his Club’s membership is in fairly steep decline and has been for some years. Nowt so queer as folk, as we say up North.
Open Information about Clubs and Events
Links to all GoldWing Clubs in UK (including Regions) have been listed on the Club List of the BLP website as a service to the UK GoldWing Community for well over a year. It’s in the “GoldWing Info” section, together with the All Clubs Calendar, which has also been there for over a year.
And by the way there is nothing on either of these sources which is not in the public domain and accessible via search engines or discoverable by other perfectly legitimate ways; I have simply been gathering the information together in one place for the convenience of the UK GoldWing Community.
It’s all about freedom of choice.
Hand of Friendship
Hand of Friendship
The Hand of Friendship
Last week, in the spirit of hatchet-burying which 2009 was supposed to be bringing to the UK GoldWing Community, I emailed all the Regions to offer to update their listing and links on the BLP website so they can continue to benefit properly from this free and, I would have thought, fairly useful publicity.
I had a positive response within a few minutes. But Tony Walton didn’t reply to my offer for several days. He did however promptly email all the Regions himself, stating his view that responding to my offer would be helpful to me, which he had no intention of doing and nor should anyone else. He said I was only doing this to try to discover what was happening in his Club and he encouraged everyone to have nothing to do with me. Tony seems to think that by putting a link on the BLP website I wasn’t helping Wingers to find his Club’s website at all, what I was really doing was spying on it.
Up with this Yorkshire Wings will not put!
Tony eventually responded to me directly too – by telling me that under no circumstances was I allowed to advertise his Yorkshire Wings Region on my Blog or anywhere else. Furthermore any reference to Yorkshire Goldwings or any of its events or members is to be removed immediately. And furthermore I must not put anything on my site or blog to do with Yorkshire Goldwings in the future. (I have avoided quoting Tony directly to avoid complaints of breaching copyright but this paraphrase reflects his meaning as accurately as I can.)
I replied as follows: “Hi Tony, I heard that you emailed all the Regional Reps to try to persuade them to take a similar line. So far it seems to have fallen on fairly stony ground but there may indeed be other people in your Club who think that no publicity is good publicity. I am happy to avoid giving your Region any publicity on this Blog in future and to remove it from the Clubs List. I will also, of course, try to avoid publishing anything over which you hold copyright. Please let me know if you change your mind.”
I also asked Tony if he had thought whether he might regret looking this gift horse in the mouth when an independent GoldWing Club forms in Yorkshire and his faces competition as the local GoldWing Club.
And I pointed out that if anything happens which is newsworthy, such as him picking another argument and broadcasting it, I might well report it on the Blog anyway. We do still have a right to freedom of expression in UK, even about things which are happening in Yorkshire.
Tony responded to this by telling me that he and his members will be monitoring the Blog from time to time (I’m very happy to hear that of course) and if they find that I am saying “deflamatory” words they will take appropriate action. Jehad being declared then, Yorkshire style?
Don't worry, be happy
Don't worry, be happy
Don’t worry, be happy
Don’t worry Tony, I’m not planning to bug your Club Meetings or hack into your website; I wouldn’t have a clue how to start even if I wanted to, which of course I don’t.
And I don’t mind at all if you want to hide Yorkshire Wings’s light under a bushel. In creating this Blog I’m only trying to do my bit to promote freedom of choice in the UK GoldWing Community.
And by definition that includes your freedom to keep yourself to yourself if that’s what you want to do – unless of course if you go and make a public spectacle of yourself again by broadcasting your belligerence. That sort of things makes news – and this Blog is after all a Newsletter. Hence you have featured in this Article.
Where there's muck there's brass!
Where there's muck there's brass!
And Extravagance in Yorkshire Wings too, would you believe it?
See all, hear all, say nowt; eat all, sup all, pay nowt. That’s the Yorkshireman’s creed.
“Come on, get your coat on” said the Yorkshireman to his wife. “Oh are you taking me out then?” she replied. “No, but I’m going out so the heating’s going off”.
Can it be true that Yorkshire Wings are being extravagant, at a time of economic recession? Surely they’re not really paying £46 per couple as a Club subscription this year – and that’s just their contribution to their Club’s national kitty, before they collect anything for their own expenses? That’s 10% up on last year. And it costs even more if they’ve got kids.
In GoldWings North West we are paying £12, including the whole family. This is 70% less than we paid last year. GoldWings North Wales is about the same. So is Elite Wings. So is Scotia Wings.
Have Yorkshire Wings gone completely mad sending all this hard-earned brass out of Yorkshire for other folk to spend?
An Independent Yorkshire GoldWing Club
And in case anyone in Yorkshire Wings hasn’t noticed yet, a new independent GoldWing Club has formed in Yorkshire.
It’s got quite an impressive website too, where you can read all about it. And there’s no mention of a subscription at all. A free GoldWing Club in Yorkshire? Now that could turn out to be very tough competition.
And where would you find a link to this new Club’s website then? On the Club List of course, from which Tony Walton’s Region has now been removed, as requested.
A genuinely Friendly GoldWing Club
As I said Tony, let me know if you change your mind about free publicity and I’ll be happy to oblige.
As far as I am concerned it’s all about freedom of choice for Wingers – and of course being friendly and helpful to other Wingers, even if they’re not in the same club. Surely that’s what any genuinely friendly GoldWing Club should do and encourage, isn’t it?
After all, who wants to join a Club which claims to be friendly yet in practice turns against its own members like a lynch mob? Or has a culture of being disparaging about all former or non members who are Wingers, calling them freeloaders or worse, as if they were heretics. Or pay a big subscription for the privilege of hearing old battles being resurrected because someone can’t lighten up or let go and move on, even when his own mates on his Club’s Forum have been telling him to do just that?
Are they going be using secret passwords and handshakes next, and shifting the location of their meetings every month at the last minute to confuse the enemy? Come on Yorkshire Wings, it’s a hobby, not a religion. And the War of the Roses ended in 1487. And remind me now, which side won in the end?
Stuart.
Once again you are twisting things. I emailed you to tell you that I didn’t ask the other Regions to boycott your site I only asked what they were going to do but you have forgot to mention that. Secondly it is not my Club it belongs to the members and it was them that voted to have nothing to do with your Federation not me. I only carry out there requests. So if you are going to report Yorkshire matters please get your facts straight.
I took great care to reflect what you had sent out to the Regions very accurately, as I explained in the Article. I have no doubt that you were trying to rally support for non-cooperation with my offer to update the entries on the Clubs List. You did this off your own bat and only consulted your Members later. If you feel you have been misrepresented please send me a copy of the email which you sent to the Regions and I will publish your exact words.
But doesn’t Dennis Healy’s Rule of Holes apply here Tony? Of course your members are entitled to decide for themselves whether to join the Federation; free choice is what I am argung for. But you didn’t refer to the Federation at all, it was all about non-cooperation with me. You grabbed the opportunity to relaunch a personalised attack. Nit picking about the precise interpretation of a few words doesn’t change the facts of your beligerent actions. If you’re in a hole, stop digging.
It only takes one or two key people to decide that you’re bringing your Club into disrepute and you can end up getting expelled you know!
‘It only takes one or two key people to decide that you’re bringing your Club into disrepute and you can end up getting expelled you know!’
How very true that is Stuart.
hi stuart, firstly, nice website and some, very interesting reading well done.
i would just like to point out,
the appy wanderers is open to any goldwing rider in the country, not just yorkshire, we really dont have a base anywhere in yorkshire, only cyberspace,and although we are independent,(we are even independent of colin appleyards now) we are affiliated to GWOCGB. has i am hoping to provide a benefit to the gwocgb membership.
with tours, hotel weekends etc,
we dont have membership fees, we are a non-profit making group.
and of course, every one is welcome, and i do mean everyone. (on a wing)
finally, the house of lancaster, only beat the yorkies, after they got the welsh to help them.
(and that does sound familer even today)
good luck with your site, and your winging.
all the best to everyone involved.
yours
barry walton
appy wanderers goldwing touring group.
Hopefully most viewers will have realised that I was indulging in a bit of tongue-in-cheek irony there; the last thing I want is to set of any more ping pong arguments anywhere in the GoldWing Community. It was suposed to be a bit of gentle ribbing.
So here’s another Yorkshire story for you all:
Two Barnsley lads sitting in the kitchen, bored and unable to afford to go down to the lub for a pint because pay day is too far away.
“I spy with my little eye something beginnin with T” says one of them.
“T’table”, says his mate, “Nope” came the reply.
“T’teaspoon” “Nope”
“T’ towel” “Nope”
“Aright, I give up”
“It’s t’oven”
National Touring Club eh Barry, the big time. Like Elite Wings but with a bit more class?
Affiliation with GWOCGB. That’s a new one. Could be very interesting.
How does that work then?
Can’t remember seeing anything in GWOCGB Rules about an independent club being allowed to affiliate.
Do Appy Wanderers have to pay £46 per couple to GWOCGB, same as Yorkshire Wings, or have you got yourself a special trade deal?
You clever beggar!
Don’t tell me it’s just a friendly thing because you pay for advertising in Wingspan and that you don’t pay them anything else at all for the priviledge!
That sounds like a really good deal.
Because you’re independent, does it mean that they can’t tell you what to do?
Or expel your Members off their own bat, like they can their own Regions?
Can any independent Club affiliate then?
The indpendent Club we formed last year to organise the Blackpool Light Parade paid full whack for advertising in Wingspan too, does that mean we could get free affiliation?
Maybe all the Regions which only have a few paid up GWOCGB Members could do the same thing.
It could really catch on! Do you get a GWEF card too?
Come on Barry, spill the beans!
Only kidding of course – never thought for a minute you would be paying subscriptions. And you will be most welcome to submit an Article on your Club for this Blog to introduce it properly. Good website and your Club is a welcome addition for the UK GoldWing Community, especially now that GWOCGB has no touring element at all – it’s former Alpine Region has also broken away and is now independent.
thanks for all that stuart, at least your sense of humour is as lively as ever….
affilation was proberly the wrong word to use, we are recognised as a benefit to GWOCGB members, and encourage the joining of gwoc,
has you know, i have always had a great love of the goldwing and the GWOCGB. having been a member for many years.
the wanderers i hope, along with dave sharp, (my partner in the wanderers) will encourage wingers to use there wings, for what they were designed for, touring.
and yes we will take you up on your offer of a brief write up about the appy wanderers.
see you all on the road.
barry
I can sympathise with your situation somewhat Stuart, as – being new to goldwinging – on a couple of occasions I have attended the Yorkshire Wing meetings at the Royal Oak, and have found them not to be the most friendly group of people. In fact for some of them it seemed to be a bit of an effort to even smile and chat! I’m a Yorkshire man through and through but it put me off joining their club.
If you would like to make contact with other Wingers in Yorkshire with a few to forming an independent and more friendly GoldWing club in your part of the world please feel free to advertise your interest on this Blog – it’s all about freedom of choice!
Could somebody ask the other disgruntled yorkshire winger to get in touch with me PLEASE, or he can get me on 07888625656
Hi disgruntled yyorkshire winger 2 .. I now have your details and shall give you a call over the weekend if thats ok with you!
I look forward to hearing from you, something needs to be organised for the wingers in our region.
I see yorkshire goldwings have changed their september meeting datefrom 13/9/09 to 6/9/09 because it clashed with the scarborough light parade and sunday rideout, congratulations Mr.walton, it now clashes with the Blackpool Light Parade and any sunday rideout, I wonder what the punishment will be if you stay in Blackpool and miss the beligerante’s meeting.
Just to let you know that it was not Tony that changed the date ,the Members voted on what they wanted to do and they picked that date. As joint Rep with Tony we like to let the Members decide what they want. Anyone that wants to be in Blackpool will be and anyone that wants to be at the Meeting will be.
I hope that between our Light Parades we can attrect more people from down south to make it worth while. Having said all that, it is time to bring to an end all this nit picking and sqabbling. There are people with friends on both sides and will remain friends no matter what is said. And just to let you know this will be the first time in 5 yrs I have not been to the BLP but due to having to keep that weekend free just incase of any last minute problems with the SLP. Talking to Bob some time back in Preston he said he would like to see 4 light parades in the uk BLP, SLP and 2 down South, possibly Brighton and one South West. I hope this can still happen for the good of the UK GoldWing scene. Roger Morgan
Welcome to this Blog Roger and thank you for making that clear. GoldWing Light Parades all over the Country is something which I know Bob has favoured for some time and I think is a good idea too. The problem is finding suitable towns in which to parade – ie where there are going to be big enough crowds around to be worth Parading for. Its got to be after dark to look good, so it’s really got to be a tourist town where there will still be crowds on the streets after dark – which is why Blackpool has been so successful. The Illuminations attracts the crowds in September. Anywhere else you might be riding through empty streets. I understand you didn’t do that well for crowds, even in Scarborough but hopefully it will get better as your Event gets better known among the regular visitors to Scarborough. I would be delighted to see it build up and as you say, two Parades in the North is better than one and could attract more of those Southern Softies to ride their bikes among our lovely moorland roads in the late season. I suggested there was potential synergism between the BLP and the Treffen if they were coordinated, to attract Eurpean Wingers to the UK for a ten day biking holiday but that one fell on certain very deaf ears.
Of course publicity helps to promte a Light Parade to the public as well as Wingers too and there is evidence that the BLP website is now widely viewed and non-bikers actually time their visit to Blackpool to catch our Parade. If you and your Joint Rep would like your Light Parade publicisng all you have to do is ask but I will act on Tony’s request not to publicise anything of yours until you say otherwise.
If you really do want to rebuild damaged friendships no doubt everyone would be delighted, but you can’t expect to make much progress the way things have been going recently. These Disgruntled Yorkshire Wingers we’ve been hearing from aren’t figments of anyone’s imagination you know. You reap what you sow and you lot (or at least not just Tony on his own) seem to some people to have been sowing an awful lot of beligerence over the past year or so, quite a bit of it in my direction of course. Nice to hear that things might be improving. Perhaps your Members would like to vote to ask me to publicise your Light Parade on the BLP website instead of chucking one of your own Members off your Forum for daring to mention GoldWings North Wales on it! Maybe I could be invited to come to the Scarborough Light Parade; I would quite like to do that.
I first went to a meeting at Hirst Courtney in 2007, the doors were closed, so we had a quick drink in the bar, went back outside and admired the Goldwings, Got back on ours and sodded off, we seemed to be about as welcome as diarrhoea in in a geriatric ward. The next time we went the main topic was about stopping another club forming in Leeds, and that thing discussed at the royal oak gwocgb meeting should not be mentioned at the Leeds meeting. It all seemed like a lot of whinging, bitching and backbiting, no incentive to join at all. I went to one more meeting and I was given the application forms to join gwocgb, but with so many people to talk to I abandoned them on my way home and have gone my own way ever since. Now it’s time for a change. Yorkshire is a huge area that, GoldWing-wise, appears to be ruled by a dictatorship at the moment.
Watch this space, The domain has been acquired, the web site is being set up, a new club is on its way!
Hi, if that who I think it is, let me have the domain name etc so I can see when the new club is up and running and taking members.
There is a real prospect of another new Club forming in Yorkshire and details will hopefully be published on this Blog shortly.
Well done to that Yorkshire winger in taking the bull by the horns to start up a alternative to what is available,I hope you have great suceess in forming your Yorkshire club.
Well done that Winger! It may seem like a big step at the moment, but be reassured that there are others out there who want an alternative and will be only too glad to support you. You can’t beat freedom of choice!
Hi, I’m back,got fed up so jumped a last minute flight, I’m going to go ahead with the website for Goldwings-EastYorkshire this week, if anybody is interested ring me on 07888 625656.
Have a look at yorkshire golwings, events, then at the bottom of the page click on forum, this makes interesting reading when people say they know 50 members who have not rejoined, and the forum has lost 30 members in 3 days. I think Tony Walton should re-name the club, “The Rotherham and District wingers”. Watch this space!!!!
I forgot, are there any contact details for whoever is looking into Goldwings North Yorkshire, thanks
Having been in the Yorkshire region for a few years now, it seems the time for change is upon us.
The region is just too big and there are definately 2 camps with a North/South divide.
I have good friends in the South and North but there are also some very insular people who have been in the club for donkey’s years and who are most un-welcoming. Some have barely acknowledged I exist in the years I’ve been in the club.
Ive read with great interest the comments made.
having been in the club for 25 yrs,been area rep for 2 different counties and on 2 treffen commitees,ive been around as they say,
I agree with the comments made about the yorshire meeting last time i went years ago i was totally ignored and it seemed very clicish.the gwocgb is like any other club there are people who you stay in contact with and there are others you just dont bother with.the politics of the gwocgb are taking over the club,i never bothered going to events only the trffen because of this and the back stabbing.
I feel there is a need for some form of alternative goldwing organisation,but id like to think this would not have a detrimental effect on the gwocgb and could run along side it.
I wish every one with a goldwing well and i will watch with great interest what goes on in yorkshire and yes i probably would join an alternative club as well.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s all about freedom of choice.
hi stuart nice site if you have access to may wingspan have look in the letters page l&l have left a nice one for you keep up the good work
So I hear. Same sort of rubbish is said to have been published on the L& L website too. It’s sad that she can neither move on nor live and let live. It’s not remotely representative of Lancs & Lakes of course, just one sad individual being selectively negative and implying things that simply aren’t and were never true.
At a Ride Safe Back Safe Event at Blackpool recently both GoldWings North West and Lancs & Lakes were present – and chatting happily together as old friends.
Lancs and Lakes have kindly removed the negative comments from their website regarding the Blackpool Light Parade. The rep was unaware the statement was causing concern and offered to remove it immediately. How about that for cooperation?
Bob
It was either remarkably insensitive (or alternatively just plain nasty) to have put the comments there in the first place. It wasn’t just knocking the BLP, she implied, completely unjustifiably, impropriety by other Wingers – and she has caused very serious offence by doing so.
I hope she will have the decency to write another letter to Wingspan, where she made similar remarks, apologising for doing that too. I cannot imagine that anyone in Lancs & Lakes would support their Rep behaving in that way.
I belonged to GWOCGB a few years ago, but left, and joined Elite-Wings, when you talk to Goldwing owners about GwocGB reginal meetings most have the same unfreindly attitude, if you don’t like camping or belong to another GW Club they imediately ignore you, thats if they bother to talk to you in the first place.
Biking is to enjoy and most clubs wecome new members, GWOCGB seems to do the opposite, this applies across the country.
I cannot see them surving unles a change of attitude is forthcoming, its a shame the members are like it, or is it because they are so beauracratic.
Elite-Wings amd PEMC both of which I belong donot have this beaurocrocy, and they are so freindly and welcoming to new members.
hi to all great blog stuart i thought i was on my own when i voted with my feet and left the gwocgb. having been in the club for a few years i noticed the club going one way if you where not doing the wing ding weekends there was nothing more doing apart from the one day static displays which often turned int weekend events as i have to work a lot of weekends going away fri to sun was out of the question so i found myself riding solo most of the time paying a membership fee realy for nothing apart from a monthly mag hope the new web site and club goes well for you it would be good to see how many former yorkshire wing members you get to join.
Hi Stuart I know it sounds funny but I have just found your site by accident while trawling through the Webb. With ref to Mike Emblings statement about people not talking. I have heard this mention before, but in the 15 years that I have been a member I have never come across this. I have however found some new members who have been in the club for only a short time complain because people don’t bend over backwards to try and please them. People should remember that it is not only the old members that have to help new members fit in but new members have to also make an effort to join in the festivities. There are some aspects of the Club That I don’t really get on with but you have to weigh every thing up and get on with the things that you do like. We can’t all like everything that other people like in life so you find your niche in life nor a club and make the most of it. Mike if you read this please feel welcome to look me up, I will have a drink with you and a chat and make you feel most welcome.
Hi Dave and welcome to the Blog. I know what you mean; I can think of two couples who joined Lancs & Lakes during my time in that Region and moaned that no-one was being friendly enough for them, when in fact in both cases they had been welcomed in what I thought was a very friendly and generous way. There’s no pleasing some folk. My experience of GWOCGB was that its Members,as indeed Wingers generally, are overwhelmingly friendly and decent people, with only a minority who come across differently. It’s probably like that in most clubs, bike clubs and others.
Likewise doubtless most of the people who put themselves out as volunteers to run their club (or in the GWOCGB context Region) will be decent people too. Although they can turn out to be bad ‘uns from time to time too, as many Regions will have experienced from time to time – and we certainly did in Lancs & Lakes a few years ago, although fortunately followed by a really good and successful period in, when Lancs & Lakes was really humming. Until of course this last year, when most of our Region (and all of our very successfull Regional Committee) left GWOCGB en masse to form an independent regional-type club, entirely because of the way the National Commitee had behaved during that year. Two GWOCGB Regions were effectively lost during 2008 as a result of the National Committee’s actions.
Individuals who volunteer to run a club nationally will mostly be decent people too of course. And having a national club structure can be helpful to regional or local clubs, for example during times when tensions are threatening to damage or split a local club up. And maybe, just maybe, having a ruling national committee which has the authority to expel an individual troublemaker sumarily from the Club and therefore also from the Region which is his or her victim, could save the day.
But having a ruling national structure in a club which has this authority runs all sorts of risks. For example of having people of poor calibre or judgement in key positions who chuck someone out sumarily against the wishes of his or her Region because of their rigid ideas or because their personal power base feels threatened by the prospect of change. And if the ruling national committee make a real mess of things, as arguably GWOCGB’s National Committee did throughout 2008, culminating in taking on new powers to throw absolutely anyone they don’t like out sumarily at the 2008 AGM, a non-ruling national structure, i.e. a federation of regional or special interest clubs, begins to look much more attractive.
Time will tell whether the new UK Federation will suit the UK GoldWing Community better than GWOCGB’s much abused national structure. I think it will.
Hello Stuart,
Thank god, thank our fathers who spilt blood and guts in the two world wars and thank British democracy that there is more than one club to join, there is one out there to suit most folk. The Yorkies Branch of the Goldwing Owners club of Great Britan, suits some but not me. I tried it and left it. Im much MUCH happier where I am now and MAG gets my x Goldwing club fee. MAG are the guys who ensure we ALL get to ride our bikes whatever they may be. So wake up you disgruntled wingers, stiffen your backs grit your teeth and have a look around at the other Gold Wing groups. Good site great content, well done that man!
Hi Stuart what a good site, I was a member of Yorkshire wings for 19 years and the last 3 years were diabolical they lost the plot about being a friendly club its about time a new club with plain thinking started. After talking to Nigel North Wales I have bought another Wing, I’m going to Kirby later this month and hope to see you there
Chalkey
There is a new independent Club in process of forming in East Yorkshire, so depending on where you are you might want to make contact with them. I’ll put you in touch if you wish, alternatively you would be welcome at GoldWings North West – or of course you could think about forming your own local Club. I’ll be at Kirkby Lonsdale and look forward to seeing you there.
Well, it’s taken some doing and a lot of time, but, the New Club is formed, the website is up and running. The meeting date and venue are on, we look forward to, and hope to see some of you there, everybody is welcome, If you have any questions etc. you can contact me through the website, or email me at the email address above.
My thanks to everybody for there help and advice, now lets make it work.
All the best, Steve.
Hi Steve. Frank and I are hoping to be at your first ever meeting of GoldWings East Yorks, we wish you all the best and hope you grow from strength to strength with new members. Good luck.
Frank and Judy Goodman. GoldWings North West.
Does anyone have the time to ride a goldwing in this group.
If you dont like the group go somewhere else with other mates.
FFS its about riding. isnt it ?
I take it this comment was provoked by the recent big showdown and split in Yorkshire Wings? I’ll publish something about it when the facts become a bit clearer.