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	<title>Comments on: A thriving GoldWing Newsletter &#8211; and a Secret GoldWing Society in Yorkshire?</title>
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	<link>http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-clubs/a-thriving-goldwing-newsletter-and-a-secret-goldwing-society-in-yorkshire/</link>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-clubs/a-thriving-goldwing-newsletter-and-a-secret-goldwing-society-in-yorkshire/comment-page-1/#comment-3208</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it this comment was provoked by the recent big showdown and split in Yorkshire Wings?  I&#039;ll publish something about it when the facts become a bit clearer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it this comment was provoked by the recent big showdown and split in Yorkshire Wings?  I&#8217;ll publish something about it when the facts become a bit clearer.</p>
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		<title>By: JOHN C</title>
		<link>http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-clubs/a-thriving-goldwing-newsletter-and-a-secret-goldwing-society-in-yorkshire/comment-page-1/#comment-3197</link>
		<dc:creator>JOHN C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have the time to ride a goldwing in this group.
If you dont like the group go somewhere else with other mates.
FFS its about riding. isnt it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have the time to ride a goldwing in this group.<br />
If you dont like the group go somewhere else with other mates.<br />
FFS its about riding. isnt it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Goodman</title>
		<link>http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-clubs/a-thriving-goldwing-newsletter-and-a-secret-goldwing-society-in-yorkshire/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve. Frank and I are hoping to be at your first ever meeting of GoldWings East Yorks, we wish you all the best and hope you grow from strength to strength with new members. Good luck.
Frank and Judy Goodman. GoldWings North West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve. Frank and I are hoping to be at your first ever meeting of GoldWings East Yorks, we wish you all the best and hope you grow from strength to strength with new members. Good luck.<br />
Frank and Judy Goodman. GoldWings North West.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve.     (crazy.one@virgin.net)</title>
		<link>http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-clubs/a-thriving-goldwing-newsletter-and-a-secret-goldwing-society-in-yorkshire/comment-page-1/#comment-612</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve.     (crazy.one@virgin.net)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s taken some doing and a lot of time, but, the New Club is formed, the website is up and running. The meeting date and venue are on, we look forward to, and hope to see some of you there, everybody is welcome, If you have any questions etc. you can contact me through the website, or email me at the email address above. 
My thanks to everybody for there help and advice, now lets make it work.
  All the best, Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s taken some doing and a lot of time, but, the New Club is formed, the website is up and running. The meeting date and venue are on, we look forward to, and hope to see some of you there, everybody is welcome, If you have any questions etc. you can contact me through the website, or email me at the email address above.<br />
My thanks to everybody for there help and advice, now lets make it work.<br />
  All the best, Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-clubs/a-thriving-goldwing-newsletter-and-a-secret-goldwing-society-in-yorkshire/comment-page-1/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a new independent Club in process of forming in East Yorkshire, so depending on where you are you might want to make contact with them.  I&#039;ll put you in touch if you wish, alternatively you would be welcome at GoldWings North West - or of course you could think about forming your own local Club.  I&#039;ll be at Kirkby Lonsdale and look forward to seeing you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a new independent Club in process of forming in East Yorkshire, so depending on where you are you might want to make contact with them.  I&#8217;ll put you in touch if you wish, alternatively you would be welcome at GoldWings North West &#8211; or of course you could think about forming your own local Club.  I&#8217;ll be at Kirkby Lonsdale and look forward to seeing you there.</p>
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		<title>By: CHALKEY</title>
		<link>http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-clubs/a-thriving-goldwing-newsletter-and-a-secret-goldwing-society-in-yorkshire/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>CHALKEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stuart what a good site, I was a member of Yorkshire wings for 19 years and the last 3 years were diabolical they lost the plot about being a friendly club its about time a new club with plain thinking started.  After talking to Nigel North Wales I have bought another Wing, I&#039;m going to Kirby later this month and hope to see you there
           Chalkey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stuart what a good site, I was a member of Yorkshire wings for 19 years and the last 3 years were diabolical they lost the plot about being a friendly club its about time a new club with plain thinking started.  After talking to Nigel North Wales I have bought another Wing, I&#8217;m going to Kirby later this month and hope to see you there<br />
           Chalkey</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Sharp</title>
		<link>http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-clubs/a-thriving-goldwing-newsletter-and-a-secret-goldwing-society-in-yorkshire/comment-page-1/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Stuart,
Thank god, thank our fathers who spilt blood and guts in the two world wars and thank British democracy that there is more than one club to join, there is one out there to suit most folk. The Yorkies Branch of the Goldwing Owners club of Great Britan, suits some but not me. I tried it and left it. Im much MUCH happier where I am now and MAG gets my x Goldwing club fee. MAG are the guys who ensure we ALL get to ride our bikes whatever they may be. So wake up you disgruntled wingers, stiffen your backs grit your teeth and have a look around at the other Gold Wing groups. Good site great content, well done that man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Stuart,<br />
Thank god, thank our fathers who spilt blood and guts in the two world wars and thank British democracy that there is more than one club to join, there is one out there to suit most folk. The Yorkies Branch of the Goldwing Owners club of Great Britan, suits some but not me. I tried it and left it. Im much MUCH happier where I am now and MAG gets my x Goldwing club fee. MAG are the guys who ensure we ALL get to ride our bikes whatever they may be. So wake up you disgruntled wingers, stiffen your backs grit your teeth and have a look around at the other Gold Wing groups. Good site great content, well done that man!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-clubs/a-thriving-goldwing-newsletter-and-a-secret-goldwing-society-in-yorkshire/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 21:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave and welcome to the Blog.  I know what you mean; I can think of two couples who joined Lancs &amp; Lakes during my time in that Region and moaned that no-one was being friendly enough for them, when in fact in both cases they had been welcomed in what I thought was a very friendly and generous way.  There&#039;s no pleasing some folk.  My experience of GWOCGB was that its Members,as indeed Wingers generally, are overwhelmingly friendly and decent people, with only a minority who come across differently. It&#039;s probably like that in most clubs, bike clubs and others.

Likewise doubtless most of the people who put themselves out as volunteers to run their club (or in the GWOCGB context Region) will be decent people too.  Although they can turn out to be bad &#039;uns from time to time too, as many Regions will have experienced from time to time - and we certainly did in Lancs &amp; Lakes a few years ago, although fortunately followed by a really good and successful period in, when Lancs &amp; Lakes was really humming.  Until of course this last year, when most of our Region (and all of our very successfull Regional Committee) left GWOCGB en masse to form an independent regional-type club, entirely because of the way the National Commitee had behaved during that year.  Two GWOCGB Regions were effectively lost during 2008 as a result of the National Committee&#039;s actions.

Individuals who volunteer to run a club nationally will mostly be decent people too of course.  And having a national club structure can be helpful to regional or local clubs, for example during times when tensions are threatening to damage or split a local club up. And maybe, just maybe, having a ruling national committee which has the authority to expel an individual troublemaker sumarily from the Club and therefore also from the Region which is his or her victim, could save the day.

But having a &lt;em&gt;ruling&lt;/em&gt; national structure in a club which has this authority runs all sorts of risks.  For example of having people of poor calibre or judgement in key positions who chuck someone out sumarily &lt;em&gt;against&lt;/em&gt; the wishes of his or her Region because of their rigid ideas or because their personal power base feels threatened by the prospect of change.  And if the ruling national committee make a real mess of things, as arguably GWOCGB&#039;s National Committee did throughout 2008, culminating in taking on new powers to throw absolutely anyone they don&#039;t like out sumarily at the 2008 AGM, a &lt;em&gt;non-ruling&lt;/em&gt; national structure, i.e. a federation of regional or special interest clubs, begins to look much more attractive.

Time will tell whether the new UK Federation will suit the UK GoldWing Community better than GWOCGB&#039;s much abused national structure.  I think it will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave and welcome to the Blog.  I know what you mean; I can think of two couples who joined Lancs &amp; Lakes during my time in that Region and moaned that no-one was being friendly enough for them, when in fact in both cases they had been welcomed in what I thought was a very friendly and generous way.  There&#8217;s no pleasing some folk.  My experience of GWOCGB was that its Members,as indeed Wingers generally, are overwhelmingly friendly and decent people, with only a minority who come across differently. It&#8217;s probably like that in most clubs, bike clubs and others.</p>
<p>Likewise doubtless most of the people who put themselves out as volunteers to run their club (or in the GWOCGB context Region) will be decent people too.  Although they can turn out to be bad &#8216;uns from time to time too, as many Regions will have experienced from time to time &#8211; and we certainly did in Lancs &#038; Lakes a few years ago, although fortunately followed by a really good and successful period in, when Lancs &#038; Lakes was really humming.  Until of course this last year, when most of our Region (and all of our very successfull Regional Committee) left GWOCGB en masse to form an independent regional-type club, entirely because of the way the National Commitee had behaved during that year.  Two GWOCGB Regions were effectively lost during 2008 as a result of the National Committee&#8217;s actions.</p>
<p>Individuals who volunteer to run a club nationally will mostly be decent people too of course.  And having a national club structure can be helpful to regional or local clubs, for example during times when tensions are threatening to damage or split a local club up. And maybe, just maybe, having a ruling national committee which has the authority to expel an individual troublemaker sumarily from the Club and therefore also from the Region which is his or her victim, could save the day.</p>
<p>But having a <em>ruling</em> national structure in a club which has this authority runs all sorts of risks.  For example of having people of poor calibre or judgement in key positions who chuck someone out sumarily <em>against</em> the wishes of his or her Region because of their rigid ideas or because their personal power base feels threatened by the prospect of change.  And if the ruling national committee make a real mess of things, as arguably GWOCGB&#8217;s National Committee did throughout 2008, culminating in taking on new powers to throw absolutely anyone they don&#8217;t like out sumarily at the 2008 AGM, a <em>non-ruling</em> national structure, i.e. a federation of regional or special interest clubs, begins to look much more attractive.</p>
<p>Time will tell whether the new UK Federation will suit the UK GoldWing Community better than GWOCGB&#8217;s much abused national structure.  I think it will.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave (Avon Wings)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave (Avon Wings)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stuart I know it sounds funny but I have just found your site by accident while trawling through the Webb. With ref to Mike Emblings statement about  people not talking.  I have heard this mention before, but in the 15 years that I have been a member I have never come across this. I have however found some new members who have been in the club for only a short time complain because people don&#039;t bend over backwards to try and please them. People should remember that it is not only the old members that have to help new members fit in but new members have to also make an effort to join in the festivities. There are some aspects of the Club That I don&#039;t really  get on with but you have to weigh every thing up and get on with the things that you do like. We can&#039;t all like everything that other people like in life so you find your niche in life nor a club and make the most of it. Mike if you read this please feel welcome to look me up, I will have a drink with you and a chat and make you feel most welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stuart I know it sounds funny but I have just found your site by accident while trawling through the Webb. With ref to Mike Emblings statement about  people not talking.  I have heard this mention before, but in the 15 years that I have been a member I have never come across this. I have however found some new members who have been in the club for only a short time complain because people don&#8217;t bend over backwards to try and please them. People should remember that it is not only the old members that have to help new members fit in but new members have to also make an effort to join in the festivities. There are some aspects of the Club That I don&#8217;t really  get on with but you have to weigh every thing up and get on with the things that you do like. We can&#8217;t all like everything that other people like in life so you find your niche in life nor a club and make the most of it. Mike if you read this please feel welcome to look me up, I will have a drink with you and a chat and make you feel most welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: ex yorkshire winger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex yorkshire winger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi to all great blog stuart i thought i was on my own when i voted with my feet and left the gwocgb. having been in the club for a few years i noticed the club going one way if you where not doing the wing ding weekends there was nothing more doing apart from the one day static displays which often turned int weekend events as i have to work a lot of weekends going away fri to sun was out of the question so i found myself riding solo most of the time paying a membership fee realy for nothing apart from a monthly mag hope the new web site and club goes well for you it would be good to see how many former yorkshire wing members you get to join.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi to all great blog stuart i thought i was on my own when i voted with my feet and left the gwocgb. having been in the club for a few years i noticed the club going one way if you where not doing the wing ding weekends there was nothing more doing apart from the one day static displays which often turned int weekend events as i have to work a lot of weekends going away fri to sun was out of the question so i found myself riding solo most of the time paying a membership fee realy for nothing apart from a monthly mag hope the new web site and club goes well for you it would be good to see how many former yorkshire wing members you get to join.</p>
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