Comments on: Police Harassment at the Manchester Salvation Army Toy Run http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/ an on-line magazine for the UK GoldWing Community Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:25:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: derek jackson http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/comment-page-1/#comment-1235 derek jackson Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:51:07 +0000 http://www.gl1800.org.uk/?p=2746#comment-1235 Updating my earlier comment - I have just received an email from the Salvation Army saying that negotiations are on track with GMP for them to escort the Toy Run this year, so it looks as though we're in business. Hopefully we will get an escorted route through the City Centre this time, to help raise awareness with the citizens of Manchester. All the best from Derek and see you all there on the day, whatever the weather! Updating my earlier comment – I have just received an email from the Salvation Army saying that negotiations are on track with GMP for them to escort the Toy Run this year, so it looks as though we’re in business. Hopefully we will get an escorted route through the City Centre this time, to help raise awareness with the citizens of Manchester. All the best from Derek and see you all there on the day, whatever the weather!

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]]> By: derek jackson http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/comment-page-1/#comment-1211 derek jackson Wed, 11 Aug 2010 02:44:07 +0000 http://www.gl1800.org.uk/?p=2746#comment-1211 Hi guys n gals, Myself and a few other pals who attend the Salvation Army Toy Runs on a regulars basis also did the Wirral Egg Run this year and this one is a credit to everyone who organises it. It starts off at Coastal Road Brighten and travels some 23 miles through towns and villages to Clatterbridge and takes about 2hours. All the roads are blocked for the bikers, every man and his dog turns out, anyone who resembles a police person is there inc Traffic Wardens and PCSOs to stop the traffic. In fact I think people come out and get stuck in the traffic just to show their support. All the locals turn out at the side of the road and cheer us on, so much so Brighten was awash with a sea of bikers. I reckon at least 12.000 maybe more. even the Lady Mayor was at the front dressed as catwoman in black leather one piece suit on a VFR. now this is what I call a fund raiser - and it shows our local Plod up for the fools that they are. Maybe now that the new Coalition are in and the speed camera funding is being withdrawn the GMP cops will have to work for a living instead of sponging off the Sally Army Snack Van at the Showcase. Maybe we should ask Andy Roughley to come and join us and help out with self marshalling the Event this year as they did on their toy run to Francis House in December 2009, when the cops turned up at the last moment. Or even take our Sally Army Meeting Up Point to the Harley Centre in Stockport through to the Trafford Centre. Simple solutions to your impossible problems! TTFN. Hi guys n gals,
Myself and a few other pals who attend the Salvation Army Toy Runs on a regulars basis also did the Wirral Egg Run this year and this one is a credit to everyone who organises it. It starts off at Coastal Road Brighten and travels some 23 miles through towns and villages to Clatterbridge and takes about 2hours. All the roads are blocked for the bikers, every man and his dog turns out, anyone who resembles a police person is there inc Traffic Wardens and PCSOs to stop the traffic. In fact I think people come out and get stuck in the traffic just to show their support. All the locals turn out at the side of the road and cheer us on, so much so Brighten was awash with a sea of bikers. I reckon at least 12.000 maybe more. even the Lady Mayor was at the front dressed as catwoman in black leather one piece suit on a VFR. now this is what I call a fund raiser – and it shows our local Plod up for the fools that they are.
Maybe now that the new Coalition are in and the speed camera funding is being withdrawn the GMP cops will have to work for a living instead of sponging off the Sally Army Snack Van at the Showcase. Maybe we should ask Andy Roughley to come and join us and help out with self marshalling the Event this year as they did on their toy run to Francis House in December 2009, when the cops turned up at the last moment. Or even take our Sally Army Meeting Up Point to the Harley Centre in Stockport through to the Trafford Centre. Simple solutions to your impossible problems! TTFN.

]]> By: Now it’s the Heavy Hand of Greater Manchester Police? | Stuart's GoldWing Blog http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/comment-page-1/#comment-1123 Now it’s the Heavy Hand of Greater Manchester Police? | Stuart's GoldWing Blog Thu, 01 Jul 2010 08:56:30 +0000 http://www.gl1800.org.uk/?p=2746#comment-1123 [...] Police Harassment at the Manchester Salvation Army Toy Run December 10th, 2009 | Posted in Events, Road Policing | 6 Comments » 6 Responses [...] [...] Police Harassment at the Manchester Salvation Army Toy Run December 10th, 2009 | Posted in Events, Road Policing | 6 Comments » 6 Responses [...]

]]> By: Stuart http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/comment-page-1/#comment-700 Stuart Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:45:51 +0000 http://www.gl1800.org.uk/?p=2746#comment-700 I don't really want the Blog to become a Forum, of which there are several available to Wingers who want further discussion, so I think it's time to call a halt to further Comments on this Article. I don’t really want the Blog to become a Forum, of which there are several available to Wingers who want further discussion, so I think it’s time to call a halt to further Comments on this Article.

]]> By: dave and toni http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/comment-page-1/#comment-699 dave and toni Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:29:41 +0000 http://www.gl1800.org.uk/?p=2746#comment-699 What type of action would be appropiate?? What type of action would be appropiate??

]]> By: Ian Duxbury http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/comment-page-1/#comment-697 Ian Duxbury Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:01:11 +0000 http://www.gl1800.org.uk/?p=2746#comment-697 It only needs someone to float the idea......the Federation, perhaps? I'm up for it, as I'm fed up of bikers still being regarded with 1950's attitudes, that we're all greasy, long-haired (sorry Bill!) troublemakers. French bikers have a history of not being trodden on like us, so perhaps it's time to follow suit. Vive la Difference! It only needs someone to float the idea……the Federation, perhaps?

I’m up for it, as I’m fed up of bikers still being regarded with 1950′s attitudes, that we’re all greasy, long-haired (sorry Bill!) troublemakers.

French bikers have a history of not being trodden on like us, so perhaps it’s time to follow suit. Vive la Difference!

]]> By: dave and toni http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/comment-page-1/#comment-694 dave and toni Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:14:35 +0000 http://www.gl1800.org.uk/?p=2746#comment-694 We were left stunned by the police action - taking the free tea and coffee and then summonsing the guy who wants to help!! Lost for words..... One point, nobody was at the Trafford Centre to tell us where to go but this is only a minor point, for the future. It was a great turnout by the biking circles - and to support something worthwhile. What next - no parades because the police cannot be bothered! A mass demonstration would not work because it would be negative but something needs doing and FAST! We were left stunned by the police action – taking the free tea and coffee and then summonsing the guy who wants to help!! Lost for words….. One point, nobody was at the Trafford Centre to tell us where to go but this is only a minor point, for the future. It was a great turnout by the biking circles – and to support something worthwhile. What next – no parades because the police cannot be bothered! A mass demonstration would not work because it would be negative but something needs doing and FAST!

]]> By: Barry and Lesley http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/comment-page-1/#comment-693 Barry and Lesley Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:28:38 +0000 http://www.gl1800.org.uk/?p=2746#comment-693 This email was sent to the Riders who registered their email addresses at the Toy Run .... Dear Bikers On behalf of everyone at The Salvation Army Central North Division may I say a very sincere word of thanks to all who participated in the 2009 Toy Run Appeal. It was a magnificent display of around 600 bikers arriving at the Trafford Centre with your generous gifts of toys and financial donations enabling children across the region to have a happier Christmas. The toys are currently being allocated to many Salvation Army centres across the North West and the total monies raised to date is in the region of £3,000. Our heartfelt thanks to all who made the day possible and successful. Kind regards and may your own Christmas be happy and peaceful. Yvonne Field So although the police indifference was there let's remember what the event was for and how successful it was for the children of the North West who need it most! This email was sent to the Riders who registered their email addresses at the Toy Run ….

Dear Bikers

On behalf of everyone at The Salvation Army Central North Division may I say a very sincere word of thanks to all who participated in the 2009 Toy Run Appeal. It was a magnificent display of around 600 bikers arriving at the Trafford Centre with your generous gifts of toys and financial donations enabling children across the region to have a happier Christmas.

The toys are currently being allocated to many Salvation Army centres across the North West and the total monies raised to date is in the region of £3,000.

Our heartfelt thanks to all who made the day possible and successful.

Kind regards and may your own Christmas be happy and peaceful.

Yvonne Field

So although the police indifference was there let’s remember what the event was for and how successful it was for the children of the North West who need it most!

]]> By: Stuart http://www.gl1800.org.uk/goldwing-events/police-harrassment-at-the-manchester-salvation-army-toy-run/comment-page-1/#comment-692 Stuart Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:27:46 +0000 http://www.gl1800.org.uk/?p=2746#comment-692 A developing culture of what I call Blame Avoidance seems to me to be an important factor too; the Police, both individually and institutionally, seem to be obsessed with not being blamed if something goes wrong. So they don't want to be responsible for marshalling in case it goes wrong in case anyone complains or sues. And as this Toy Run has shown, nor can they leave people alone to do it themselves, even though they are doing it safely and responsibly. A developing culture of what I call Blame Avoidance seems to me to be an important factor too; the Police, both individually and institutionally, seem to be obsessed with not being blamed if something goes wrong. So they don’t want to be responsible for marshalling in case it goes wrong in case anyone complains or sues. And as this Toy Run has shown, nor can they leave people alone to do it themselves, even though they are doing it safely and responsibly.

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